ukraina Tu
damarcxda, es saqarTvelosTvisac მარცხი iqneba!
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marTalia, natos uelsis
samitze saqarTvelom MAP ver miiRo, magram
mis komunikeSi, naTlad aRiniSna
saqarTvelos mier miRweuli progresi, rac Zalian mniSvnelovania. eqspertebis SefasebiT,N Crdil atlantikuri
xelSekrulebis organizaciis mier SemoTavazebuli, axali gaZlierebuli
TanamSromlobis paketi, saqarTvelos saSualebas miscems, natos wevrobisTvis
momzadebis procesSi, mniSvnelovan warmatebas miaRwios.. am da qveyanaSi mimdinare sxva mniSvnelovan
sakiTxebze gvesaubreba analitiluri
departamentis yofili ufrosi, eqsperti SoTa
utiaSvili.
-batono
SoTa, rogor SeafasebdiT natos uelsis samits? rogorc Ppezidentma ganacxada
samitze, Cveni qveynisTvis miRebulia maqsimumi, Tqven rogor fiqrobT?
-maqsimumis mReba iqneboda
maSin, Tu MAP-s miviRebdiT, magram ramdenad SesaZlebeli
iyo es, Zneli saTqmelia. Yyvelaze axlos natoSi progresis miRwevasTan viyaviT
2012 wlis Semdeg, roca moixsna erT-erTi mTavari problema, romelic am
organizaciaSi integracias uSlida ხელს, es iyo arCevnebi da arCevnebis gziT xelisuflebis
cvlilebebis gadabaareba. Ees moxda, magram xelisuflebas, rom prioritrtad aerCia
dasavluri integracia da qveynis erovnuli
interesebi da ar daewyo SurisZiebaze orientirebuli politikis warmoeba, gvqonda
Sansi, rom ufro axlos vyofiliyaviT natosTan. natos deklaraciaSiAaris ramdenime
kargi Canaweri, magram aris iseTi, romelic yvelas gvaSfoTebs, magaliTad,
konfliqtebis nawilze gakeTebuli Canaweri. es Seexeba imas, rom saqarTvelos
moqalaqeebi, konfliqtebis gamo, ver SeZleben evroatlantikuri integraciis yvela
sargeblis miRebas, es cota ucnauria, rac aqamde ar Tqmula.. jeims apaturais zepiri ganmarteba, rom amaSi
cudi araferia ar aris sakmarisi. mniSvnelovania, rom natos da evrokavSiris
dokumentebidan es Canaweri amovardes, radgan
viciT, rom aris evrokavSirSi da natoSi qveynebi,
romelTac undaT saqarTvelos interesebis progresis dablokva, swored am
konfliqtebis saSualebiT . amitom, yvelaferi unda gavakeTod imisTvis, rom momavalSi, aseTi Canawerebi natos deklaraciaSi aRar iyos.
Aamitom, vfiqrob, rom es qveynisTvis
ukan gadadgmuli nabijia. dRevandeli politikis
fonze, rac qveynis SigniT da gareT aris, vfiqrob, metnaklebad
xelsayreli Sedegi miviReT. Yyvelaze metad rac gansazRvravs, Cvens Semdeg
progress natosTan, damokidebulia imaze, Tu ra moxdeba ukrainaSi. im SemTxvevaSi,
Tu ukrainam moaxerxa da ar dauSva aRmosavleTSi axali gaWianurebuli konfliqtis Seqmna, rogorc es afxazeTSi moxda
90-ian wlebSi da warmatebiT gamovida rTuli viTarebidan, maSin, saqarTvelosTvis
Zalian kargi iqneba, xolo Tu ukraina damarcxda, es saqarTvelosTvisac მარცხი iqneba..
-rogor afasebT
evropasTan asocirebis xelSekrulebიs გაფორმებას?
-asocirebis
xelSekruleba didi sikeTis momtani iqneba Cveni qveynisTvis, misi Rirseba is
aris, rom SegveZleba uvizo mimosvla evrokavSiris qveynebTan,
savaWro-ekonomikuri urTierTobebis gaumjobeseba da a.S. cudi is aris, rom
evrokavSirma gaauqma gafarToebis komisaris Tanamdeboba. Amagram, vTvli, rom asocirebis xelSekrulebaze xelmowera,
qveynisTvis win gadadgmuli nabijia da imedia, uaxloes momavalSi dRis wesrigSi
dadgeba evrokavSirSi gawevrianebis sakiTxic. Aase rom, mxolod politikurad
SemiZlia Sevafaso aRniSnuli xelSekruleba. Ees mniSvnelovai movlena, saqarTvelos
mosaxleobis mxridanac sruli mxardaWeriT sargeblobs.
- xelisuflebis
gadawyvetilebiT, ucxoel moqalaqeebs gaumkacrdaT saqarTveloSi yofnis vada. ra azris xarT axal savizo politikaze?
-xelisuflebis gadawyvetileba ucxoeTis moqalaqeebze vizebis
gamkacrebasTan dakavSirebiT, sruliad gaumarTlebelia. aseTi gadawyvetilebebi
marTlac daazianebs saqarTvelos. CvenTvis aravis ar auxsnia, Tu ratom gaxda
saWiro axali savizo politikis SemoReba. Ugaugebaria, ra problemas qmnidnen ucxo
qveynidan Semosuli turistebi Tu investorebi?..
sagareo saqmeTa saministrom ki, aseTi gadawyvetileba gaamarTla imiT, rom es aris
evrokavSiris moTxovnao. Mmagram, SeuZlebvelia
evrokavSiris moTxovna iyos is, rom Tavis moqalaqeebs gaumkacros
saqarTveloSi yofnis reJimi. yoveli axali tendencias da arapopularul gadawyvetilebebs
(receptebis SeemoReba, manqanebze
dazRvevis daweseba da a. S.), Tu evrokavSirs davabraleT ar iqneba marTebuli...
-unda
gamocxaddes Tu ara yofil prezidentze saerTaSoriso Zebna?
- vfiqrob ara... interpoli ar apires saakaSvili Casmas wiTel
cirkularSi, Torem Cveni mTavroba aqamde gamoacxadebda masze saerTaSoriso
Zebnas. A
-ra unda gaakeTdes
imisTvis, rom ruseT-saqarTvelos urTierToba gaumjobesdes.?
-am etapze, mgoni arc araferi ar Seicvleba.. is moTxovna, rom saqarTvelos mTavrobam raime
gaakeTos ruseTeTTan urTierTobis gamosasworeblad ar arsebobs.
ruseTi, rogorc Cans, mdgomareobis gaumjobesebas xedavs imaSi, rom saqarTvelos
warmomadgenlebs moagebina iurmalas konkursi da mxiarulTa da sazrianTa gunds
Sejibri, es arafers ar niSnavs. sakiTxi
- teritoriul mTlianobasTan dakavSirebiT, imdenad problematuria,rom misi
gadadeba SeuZlebelia. saqarTvelo, sanam teritoriebs ar daibrunebs, manamde
ruseTTan urTierTobas ver moagvarebs. ar veTanxmebi Cveni mTavrobis politikas ukrainasTan
dakavSirebiT, iqmneba STabeWdileba, rom iq mimdinare movlenebi CvenTvis
meorexarisxovania, im iluziis xarjze, rom ruseTTan urTierTobas gavaumjobesebT.MmimaCnia,
rom Cven maT unda davuWiroT mxari, vinc
namdvili megobrebi arian.
-rogor fiqrobT, ram gamoiwvia qveyanaSi
kriminogenuli situaciis gauareseba?
-danaSaulis gaxSireba, pirvel rigSi, gamoiwvia aministiam.. . .
cixidan, roca 17 000 kacs uSveb da maT samuSaos ar Tavazob, ra Tqma unda, didi albaToba imisa, rom man
ganmeorebiT Caidinos danaSauli..
-faqtia, rom gaxSirda ojaxuri Zaladobis faqtebi.. . rogor
unda moxerxdes aseTi saxis danaSaulis
prevencia?
-ojaxuri Zaladobis prevencia yvelaze advilia. ojaxSi roca konfliqtebia, pirvel jerze iaraRs aravin ar iyenebs. aseT
ojaxebSi, wlebis ganmavlobaSi grZeldeba davebi, rac cnobilia mezoblebis da
naTesavebisTvisac, saqmis kursSia ubnis inspeqtoric, romlis uSualo movaleobaa
aRniSnuli konfliqtebis mogvareba... ubnis inspeqtori, erTxel rom Caerios ojaxur davebSi da mezoblebs Soris
konfliqtSi, Cven Tavidan avicilebT tragikul Sedegebs...
-rogor fiqrobT,
sapolicio kontroli ramdenad gamoasworebs situacias?
-e.w. reidebi aris imitacia imisa, rom mTavroba,
TiTqos raRacas akeTeb danaSaulis prevenciisTvis. gaxSirebul danaSaulebTan
dakavSirebiT, imdenad dida sazogadoebis mRelvareba da SeSfoTeba, rom xelisufleba
iZulebuli gaxda raRac RonisZieba
moefiqrebina. gaugebaria xelisuflebis gancxadeba, danaSauli ganaxevrdao da Tan
unda gavamkacrod sasjelebio. Aabsurdia, Tu danaSauli ganaxevrda, maSin sasjeli unda
Semsubuqdes da ara piriqiT. sarTod, Sss-m unda Sewyvitos danaSaulis dafarva da
sazogadoebas gaacnos realuri statistika. 2010-2012 wlebSi, Tbilisi iTvleboda
yvelaze usafrTxo qalaqad - mTels msoflioSi. dRes ki, sul sxva suraTia. Aamitom,
xelisuflebam unda ebrZolos danaSauls da Tu cvlilebebia saWiro, maSin droze
gataros da Tu karg saqmes gaakeTebs Cvenc gverdSi davudgebiT. danaSauli
politikuri Tema ar aris da misi aRmofxvra unda saqarTvelos TiToeul moqalaqes, pozicias
da opoziciasac.. situaciis gamosasworeblad yvelanairi berketi xelisuflebas aqvs
da es unda gamoiyenos. saWiroa, qveyanaSi mkacri antikriminaluri politikis
gatareba da damnaSave unda daisajos...
Mmzia gogoZe
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