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                   saqarTvelos mxolod gonierebiT SevinarCunebT!

  

  afxazeTis Temaze da sxva mniSvnelovan politikur saxiTxebze gvesaubreba: saqarTvelos patriotTa alinsis Tavjdomare  daviT Tarxan-mouravi

                         

 -afxazeTsa da ruseTs Soris gaformebuli e.w. partniorobis da TanamSromlobis Sesaxeb samokavSireo xelSekruleba, kidev  ufro  aaxloebs da xels uwyobs afxazeTis integracias ruseTTan. aRniSnuli xelSekrulebis safuZvelze, samomavlod Seiqmneba saerTo SeiaraRebuli rusul-afxazuri Zalebi da romelic, faqtobrivad, iqneba rusuli SeiaraReba. amaJamad, ruseTi afxazeTs damoukidebel saxelmwifod acxadebs da aseve gaagrZelebs, Tumca, realurad integrirebuli iqneba ruseTTan. Ees, ra Tqma unda, aris saqarTvelos suverenitetis darRveva, magram  es arc  afxazeTis de-faqto xelisuflebas da arc ruseTs ar anaRvlebs.  Tumca, unda aRiniSnos, rom  afxazeTSi xalxi ukve gamofxizlda, sazogadoebis garkveuli nawili ukve Riad gamoxatavs Tavis  protests, iq bevri uxucesia, romelic ambobs, rom afxazeTi gaxdeba ruseTis nawili.. marTalia, maT arc is moswondaT saqarTvelos nawili rom iyvnen. Afxazebs,EaRniSnuli problemebi 7 wlis winaTac esmodaT. Aaq aris sakiTxebi, romelic mentalobasTan aris dakavSirebuli...

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 -konkrtulad, ras gulisxmobT?

 -kerZod, mxedvelobaSi maqvs is, rom afxazebi da qarTvelebi saerTo winapris mqone xalxia. amas veravin ver uaryofs. qarTvelebi ar varT is xalxi, vinc mivida da daipyro is miwa, romelsac hqvia afxazeTi, is Cveni saerTo miwaa. Cven varT ZirZveli  anu aborigeni mosaxleoba. qarTvelebs da afxazebs hyavdaT erTi saerTo winapari  da  erTad cxovrobdnen yovelTvis. istorias rom gadavxedoT, saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi afxazTa samTavro, qarTul samTavrod moixsenieboda yvela wyaroSi. afxazuri Tavad-aznauroba ki, Tavis Tavs qarTvelad miiCnevda da damwerlobaSi qarTul anbans iyenebda. Cvens Soris gaxvleCva moxda bolo 70 wlis ganmavlobaSi, bevrma arc ki icis, rom adre es problema ar arsebobda. Ggasuli saukunis 60-ian wlebSi, nikita xruSovis marTvelobis periodSi, ruseTSi daiwyo es moZraoba da rusma mecnierebma daiwyes laparaki, rom afxazebi qarTvelebi ar ariano.  amgvar,Kkomunistur politikas ewinaaRmdegebodnen qarTvelebi.  1958 wlis Semdeg, qarTvelebi gamodiodnen damoukideblobis moTxovniT, sadac xalxi mokles... cxadia, rom rusTSi ASeiqmna iseTi politika, romelic miznad isaxavda afxazebis gonebaSi azris danergvas, rom isini ar arian qarTvelebi da arian sxva eri... samwuxarod, aRniSnuli politika, ukve ganxorcielda, radgan eronvuloba, pirvel rigSi, fsiqologiuri sakiTxia, adamiani Sinaganad unda Tvlides, rom is qarTvelia. faqtia, rom dRes afxazebis umravleesoba Tvlis, rom is ar aris qarTveli da qarTvelebTan naTesaobazec uaryofen. Tumca, arian  iseTi afxazebic, romlebic Tvlian rom qarTvelebi arian, magaliTad, ada marSania, gia AServaSiZe, vaxtang yolbaia da sxvebi. aravin ar aqcevs yuradRebas (maT Soris ruseTic) imas, rom afxazeTidan devnili qarTveli aris 250 aTasidan 300 aTasamde. dResac ki, qarTvelebis raodenoba afxazeTSi aranaklebia, vidre afxazebisa, isini sul 75 aTasi arian. sxvaTaSoris, iq ufro meti somexi cxovrobs (80aTasi), vidre afxazi. qarTvelebis raodenobis Sesaxeb sxvadasxva monacemebia. minimalur cifrad saxeldeba 55 aTasi, xolo sxva informaciiT 120 aTasi. Nnebismier SemTxvevaSi, dResac ki, afxazeTSi qarTvelebi aris gadamwyveti Zala, magram maTi uflebebi saerTod ar aris daculi, aRarafers vambob devnilebze...

 -batono daviT, rogorc viciT, afxazeTSi mimdinare procesebi adgilobrivma mosaxleobamac gaaprotesa... rogor fiqrobT, ram gamoiwvia maTi ukmayofileba?

 -afxazi sazogadoebis didi nawili ibrZoda damoukideblobisTvis,   magram moxda is rac moxda... SeuZlebelia afxazebs ar esmodeT is, Tu ra procesebi mimdinareobs afxazeTSi, es ar aris damoukidebloba. aTaswleulobis ganmavlobaSi, saqarTvelos SemadgenlobaSi roca iyvnen, isini SenarCundnen rogorc afxazebi da ar gamqralan, miuxedavad imisa, rom qarTvelebi metni viyaviT. es metyvelebs imaze, rom sruliad  sxva damokidebuleba iyo qarTvelebsa da afxazebs Soris. Aafxazebi da qarTvelebi Zmebi arian da es ar aris litoni sityvebi,  amas adasturebs mraval aTaswliani urTierToba. saomari mdgomareobidan gamomdinare, iyo mtroba, magram pativiscema erTmaneTis mimarT, mainc ar dagvikargavs. afxazeTi Tu ruseTis nawili gaxdeba, maSin maT erovnebas gaqroba emuqreba da es esmiT maT, amitomac aprotesteben mimdinare movlenebs.magram Cven unda gvesmodes Tu risi pasuxia es? -es aris pasuxi imisa, rom Cven sruliad arasworad vagrZelebT Cvens gzas evropisa da dasavleTisaken. Aaq sul sxva fenomenTan da kavSirTan gvaqvs saqme. Ees procesebi, uSualo kavSirSia imasTan, Tu ra politikas awarmoebs, wlebis ganmavlobaSi, aSS prezidentis barak obamas administracia. yvela nabiji, romelic barak obamam gadadga dasavleTisTvis dasrulda marcxiT. magaliTad, israelSi, libiaSi, egvipteSi da siriaSi daiwyo moqmedebebi da situacia katastrofamde miiyvana. AukrainaSi daiwyo moqmedeba da iqac sruli katastrofaa - qveyana samad daiyo... Cven  kidev gvaqvs imedi, rom dagvexmareba dasavleTi da amerika cxinvalis da afxazeTis problemis mogvarebaSi? -amis safuZvels araferi ar gvaZlevs. Cven mivesalmebiT natos, viTanamSromloT da vaxorcielebT kidec ,,wvrTnisa da aRWurvis’’ programas, gvaqvs mosamzadebeli sawvrTneli centrebi da es Zalian kargia... magram, axla dgas axali amocana anu axali cntrebis gaxsnis... gavrcelda informacia, rom saqarTveloSi unda gaiwrvTnas sirieli meamboxeebi. mogexsenebaT, rom  adre obamas administraciam  siriaSi daiwyo proeqti, romlis mizani iyo baSar al asadis Camodgeba - rogorc diqtatoris. Ggegmis mixedviT, saqme  ase daiwyes: obamas adsministracia daeyrdno iseT adamianebs, romlebic bunebiT iyvnen teroristebi. Aanalogiurad iqceva aSS-s administracia saqarTveloSic, isini  eyrdnobian nac-moZraobas, romlebic bunebiT teroristebi arian. rac Seexeba sirias, iq Seqmna didi armia, misca maT fuli. marTalia, diqtatori ver Camoagdo, magram daipyro  siriis da erayis raioni, dasaxlebuli punqtebi, SeuerTda alqaidas da sxva raRac radikalur da eqstremistul organizaciebs...Semdeg ki, Tavisi Tavi gamoacxada axal saxelmwifod da dairqva islamuri saxelmwifo – xalifati. sazRvrebi dauwesa Tavis e.w. saxelmwifos da saqrTvelo da kavkasiac Sig Seiyvana (sxvaTaSoris, iq 4 qarTveli generalia). Ees, faqtobrivad, aris teroristuli organizacia, romelis uzarmazar teritorias akontrolebs, aqvT navTobi da didi Semosavali.

 -batono daviT, aSS-s administraciis  xelSewyobiT Seiqmna aRniSnuli organizacia?

 -– ra Tqma unda, barak obamas administraciis xelSewyobiT. Tumca, am ukanasknelma axla brZola xalifats gamoucxada... magram,  saxmeleTo-saomar operaciaSi monawileobaze uari Tqva natos yvela saxelmwifom. Aamitom gadawyda, rom momijnave qveynebma miiRon monawileoba saomar procesebSi, romelTa Soris saqarTveloa. aseT viTarebaSi irkveva, rom Cven unda gavxsnaT axali sawrTvneli bazebi, sadac movamzadebT siriel meamboxeebs. Ees informacia  saxelmwifo saidumlo unda yofiliyo, magram is jer Tavdacvis ministrma gaaJRera, mere sagareo saqmeTa da evro-integraciis ministrebma da amas mohyva is, rom xalifatis warmomadgenlebi gamovidnen da Tqves, rom Cven saqarTveloSi wesrigs davamyarebTo.. swored, aseT gancxadebas mohyva is, rom ruseTis prezidentma gamoacxada: afxazeTTan gavaformebT axal samokavSireo xelSekrulebaso, amasTan, aRniSna, rom sawrTvneli bazebis Seqmna sinamdvileSi aris natos faruli gegma ruseTze Tavdasasxmelado. Aai, swored aseT ugunur gancxadebas mohyva afxazeTTan samokavSireo xelSekrulebis gaformeba. aRniSnul situaciaSi, moqmedebis mxolod erTaderT gegmas vxedav, romelsac xelisuflebas gavuziareb, magram sajarod amaze jer ver visaubreb.

 -sainteresoa Tqveni mosazreba emzar kvicianis dapatimrebasTan dakavSirebiT. rogor fiqrobT, ramdenad samarTliania mis mimarT 12 wliani ganaCenis gamotana?

 -emzar kviciani aris is kaci, romelic Tavis gundTan erTad, aTwleulebis ganmavlobaSi icavda kidoris xeobas. isini arian namdvili patriotebi, vaJkacebi da mamuliSvilebi. Ffaqtia, rom ise icavdnen kodors iq veravin Sedioda. Pparadoqsia, magram faqtia, rom kaci romelic kodoris damcveli iyo  Casves cixeSi 12 wliT da xolo, vinc Caabara ruseTs, is Tavisuflad mogzaurobs sxvadasxva qveynebSi da gvmoZRravs xan amerikidan da xan kievidan. Mme Tu mkiTxavT,Yyvelaze meti ruseTis agenti mixeil saakaSvilia. wina xelisufleba, mixeil saakaSvili da misi gundi ganmsWvaluli iyo im ideiT, rom  ruseTisTvis CaebarebinaT kodori da axalgori da gaakeTes kidec es. Aamis gamo, isini unda daisajon. saerTod, mimaCnia, rom qarTvelebis bedi amerikelma ki ara, qarTvelebma ar unda gadawyvitos... Tu vinmes hgonia, rom soxumi da cxinvali darCeba ruseTs da danarCeni amerikas, es didi Secdomaa. Tumca, msoflioSi didi imperiebi ruseTi, amerika da evropa gavlenebs inawileben, magram sinamdvileSi aravin arafers ar Tmobs! Cvenc arafers ar davTmobT da saqarTvelos SevinarCunebT mxolod gonierebiT.!

-rogoria qveynis sagareo kursi? irakliAalasanias gancxadebasTan dakavSirebiT ra komentars gaakeTebT?

-qveynis kursi dRes aris prodasavluri. dRavandeliApremier ministris kursi aris dasavluri. swored, irakli RaribaSvilma moawera xeli asocirebis xelSekrulebas.  faqtia, RaribaSvilis moqmedebebi ufro gonivruli, Wkvianuri da frTxilia, vidre iyo saakaSvilis. nacmoZraoba yvelas yvelafers abralebs, TiTqos qveynis kursi Seicvala da a.S. magram am cru braldebebs aravin ar unda ahyves, miTumetes irakli alasania, romlis gancxadeba qveynis kursTan dakavSirebiT, ar iyo obieqturi. tragedias ver vxedav imaSi, rom romelime ministri gadadga. normaluri procesia is, rom Tavisufali demokratebi gamovida koaliciidan da Camoyalibda, kidev erTi, opoziciuri partia. axla ufro saRi procesi Seiqmneba. rac Seexeba, sagareo saqmeTa saministros, is maSinac ver arTmevda Tavs dakisrebul movaleobas...

 -Tqveni partia aqciisTvis emzadeba.. ratom gadawyviteT baTumSi aqciis Catareba?

' -aqcia Catardeba 14 dekembers, dRis 3 saaTze eras moedanze, ,,medeas’’ ZeglTan.  pirvel rigSi, aqcia eZRvneba imaT, vinc Tavs Seuracxyoilad grZnobda wina reJimis dros. saakaSvilma da misma gundma 300 aTasi adamiani cixeSi gamoamwyvdia da maT awamebda. wina reJimis dros davkargeT qveynis teritoriebis 20% da axla es gundi Tavad gvmoZRravs da awyobs aqcias aneqsiis winaaRmdeg. isini, axlac agrZeleben qveynaSi situaciis arevas. Aamitom,  vmarTavT aqcias kohabitaciis winaaRmdeg, raTa droulad daisajos damnaSaveebi. Ggvinda, rom qarTuli politika gatardes yvelgan, vaSingtonSi, briuselSi da ruseTSic. qarTvel xalxs aqvs Rirseba da Cven ar miviRebT damnaSave xelisuflebas. Cven unda davanaxoT msoflios Tu raoden bevrni varT da gavagebinoT ucxoel politikosebs, rom saqarTvelo Cveni samSobloa, varT qarTvelebi da Cven unda vmarTod qveyana ise, rom Cveni interesebi iyos daculi..

 --batono daviT, ratom daaraqviT Tqvens partias patriotTa aliansi?

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 -imitom, rom vinc patriotia gawevriandes ,,patriotTa aliansSi’’. Tqvenc girCevT mobrZandeT da Cveni partiis wevri gaxdeT.

 -axlaxans, Tqven agirCies TavadaznaurTa sakrebulos winamZRolaT.. mogviyeviT Tqveni warmomavlobis Sesaxeb?

 -me gaxlavarT qarTl-kaxeTis bolo mefis - giorgi meTormetis, aseve, erekle meoris, giorgi saakaZis, dadianebis STamomavali. Tu rame maqvs saukeTeso es aris warmomavloba. Tavad-aznaurobam amirCia sakrebulos winamZRolad, risTvisac maT madlobas vuxdi, magram ar vTvli, rom raime gansakuTrebuli TvisebebiT var dajildoebuli, Tumca, madloba RmerTs, warmomavloba da gvariSviloba kargi maqvs. vfiqrob, rom ers da qveyanas roca uWirda Tavad-aznauroba, yovelTvis idga brZolis wina xazze. Tundac mxeiZeTa gvari gavixsenoT, swored xalifati rom Camoyalibda da mervan meore rom Semovida, romelsac murman yrus saxeliT vicnobT. sinamdvileSi is yru ar iyo, magram ase imitom eZaxdnen, rom xalxis tirili ar esmoda. igi Zalian sastiki adamiani iyo, qalaqs  rom daemuqreboda da is ar Cabardeboda da Semdeg, mas roca aiRebda, gamoyavda 1000 kaci da Tavisi xeliT Tavs aWrida. Mmurman yrum awama argveTis mTavari mxeiZeebi daviTi da konstantine. quTaisSi aris mowameTa monasteri, sadac ori didmowamis – daviTis da konstantines wmida nawilebia dasvenebuli. saerTod, msoflioSi milioni wmindania, magram didmowame sul ocdaSvidi mamakacia da ToTxmeti mandilosani. Aaqedan oTxi qarTvelia. erT-erTi Cemi winaparia: didmowame qeTevan dedofali. qarTveleebs gvyavs asiaTasi mowame. rusebi arian 150 milioniani eri, hyavT bevi wmindani, magram da arcerTi didmowame. Cvenda sabednierod ki, oTxi didmowame gvyavs. Cven amiT unda viamayoT. Aase rom, qarTveli Tavad aznauroba yovelTvis ,,frontis’’ wina xazze iyo. dRes, roca qveyans daSla emuqreba, roca msoflioSi midis umZimesi porocesi da xdeba zneobrivi gardatexa, kanonebs aRebineben qveynebs erTsqesian qorwinebaze da a.S. aseT dros, Tavad-aznaurobam  Tavisi sityva unda Tqvas da mas sazogadoebam unda mousminos. vici, rom Tavad-aznauroba  gaaqtiurdeba, Tavis saTqmels ityvis da qveynis winsvlaSi dadebiT wvlils  Seitans.

            

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