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   gvaqvs sanaxaoba puris   gareSe

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  mimdinare politikur procesebze da moaxloebul TviTmarTvelobis arCevnebze gvesaubreba leiboristuli partiis politikuri mdivani giorgi gugava.

- ბოლო dros, პოლიტიკურ პროცესები გადაიქცა ორ მაფიოზურ ,,სინდიკატს’’ შორის დაპირისპირებად. dRes, Cven vuyurebT am ori bandis - ocnebisa da nacionalebis kinklaobas, romelic SeiZleba gadaizardos samoqalaqo dapirispirebaSi da amis niSnebi ukve ikveTeba. EmaTi dapirispireba  aris Zalauflebis, biznesis, qonebis gayofis mizniT da aranairi kavSiri ara aqvs qveynis da xalxis interesebTan, saqarTvelos ganviTarebasTan. Cven naTlad vxedavT, rom socialuri siduxWire  ufro da ufro imatebs da mZimdeba qveyanaSi, ekonomika stagnacias ganicdis, biujetSi garRvevaa da aseT dros, yoveldRiurad vxedavT zogierTi politikosebis Souebs, dapirispirebebs,  manipulirebebs – adamianis sicocxliT, janmrTelobiT da a.S.  aseve, Tu gaviTvaliswinebT  sagareo faqtorebs anu safrTxeebs, romelic regionSi viTardeba, es SeiZleba Zalian mZimed daujdes qveyanas, metic, SesaZloa Cveni xalxis interesebi sabolood Seiwiros. samwuxarod, aseT gaurkvevel realobaSi varT da amis ganmuxtva SesaZlebelia mxolod da mxolod erTi saSualebiT, unda Catardes riggareSe, vadamdeli saparlamnto arCevnebi, raTa Seicvalos xelisufleba  da movidnen is Zalebi,  romlebic pasuxismgebelni iqnebian qveynis gadarCenasa da ganviTarebaze da im umZimesi krizisidan gamoyvanaze, romelic dRes qveyanaSia Seqmnili.

-anu leiboristuli partia Tu iqneba saTaveSi situacia gamoswordeba da qveyana umZimesi krizisidan gamova?

-ra Tqma unda, Cveni partia da sxva Rirseuli adamianebic, rolebisTvisac mniSvnelovania saxelmwifosa da qveynis bedi da ara piradi menkantiluri interesebi, ris asparezsac dRes vuyurebT mTavrobasa da parlamentSi.

-batono giorgi, damajerebelia Tu ara  gardacvlili oficris Salva TaTuxaSvilis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT, prokuraturis mier gavrcelebuli versia?

-samwuxarod,  meTodebi ar icvleba...  Cven  vxedavT, rom dRevandel xelisuflebaSi wina ,,reJimis Rirseuli gamgrZelebelebi arian, maTi damokidebuleba da midgomebi zustad identuria. Cven cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi, zustad aseTi ritorika gvesmoda da wina xelisuflebasac, swored, aseTi qmedebebi da damokidebuleba  xalxis mimarT. maSinac, saxelmwifo ,,represiul manqanad’’ iyo gadaqceuli prokuratura, Sinagan saqmeTa saministro, mTlianad Zalovani institutebi da dResac igives vxedavT. Aase rom, Tvisobrivi gansxvaveba aRniSnul or Zalas Soris ar aris. TaTuxaSvilis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT,  prokuraturis  mier mimdinare gamoZieba, bunebrivia, ar aris sando. Aarc wina xelisuflebis mier warmoebuli gamoZieba iyo sando da arc dRevandelis aris damajerbeli. rogor SeiZleba maT vendoT, roca samarTaldamcavi organoebi gadaqceulia politikur iaraRad.

-batono giorgi,  rogor fiqrobT, zurab Jvanis saqmesTan dakavSirebiT unda daikiTxos Tu ara yofili prezidenti mixeil saakaSvili?

-iciT ra, rasac es xelisufleba ,,aTamaSebs’’ es aris blefi da meti araferi..  mixeil saakaSvili sanam saqaarTvelodan wavidoda, erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi asrulebda prezidentis movaleobas da Semdeg, ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSiA imyofeboda saqarTveloSi. Tu saakaSvilis pasuxisgebaSi micema undodaT, maSin saqarTvelos parlaments, romelTa umravlesobaSi ocnebaa, unda gamoecxadebina impiCmenti da samarTlebrivad Seefasebina prezidentis da mTlianad reJimis saqmianoba cxra wlis manZilze. Uunda moexsnaT misTvis imuniteti  da miecaT pasuxisgebaSi. Aaxla ki, es yvelaferi aris garToba, ,,koncerti’’ da yuradRebis gadatana im umZimesi problemebidan, romelic aris qveyanaSi.  saakaSvilis prokuraturaSi dabareba, realurad mis pasuxisgebaSi micemaze ar aris gaTvlili, aramed gamiznulia xalxis yuradRebis gadatanaze, garTobaze da Souebis mowyobaze. Aase, rom  gvaqvs sanaxaoba puris gareSe.

-ras fiqrobT, biZina ivaniSvilis  mier gamoTqmul kritikaze  - prezident  giorgi margvelaSvilis mimarT?

-biZina ivaniSvilma  SearCia  ,,saTamaSoebi’’ mTavrobaSic da parlamentSic..  igi, Tavisi cnobierebiT aris ,,sindikatis, mafiozuri klanis xelmZRvaneli da  mas  irgvliv Wirdeba saTamaSoebi, ase SearCia  man margvelaSvilic, magram rodesac is prezidenti gaxda aRar daemorCila marionetebis Semqmnels da daiwyo sakuTari ,,TamaSi’’.. .Aai, aqedan Cans ivaniSvilis damokidebuleba saxelmwifosa da xalxis mimarT, unda airidos pasuxismgebloba, gadainacvla CrdilSi da iqidan unda marTos  mTeli qveyana. yvela is procesebi, rac dRes qveyanaSi viTardeba swored, ivaniSvilis kiserzea. Mman Seqmna udidesi gancda, rom  qveyanaSi arsebuli problemebi mogvardeboda da yvela eloda socialuri sakiTxebis mowesrigebas, ekonomikis ganviTarebas, investiciebis Cadebas , magram rogorc aRmoCnda, es iyo cru dapireba da afiora...M

-baraq obamas

 -moaxloebul TviTmarTvelobis arCevnebze ras gvetyodiT? 

  - dRevandeli xelisufleba, Tavisi winamorbediviT, igive meTodikiT ayalbebs arCevnebs. Aai, axlac, momavali TviTmarTvelobis arCevnebisTvisac, saarCevno komisiebis  mTliani monopolizeba gaakeTes, mTlianad wagvarTves sareklamo dro, dafinansebis wyaroebi da a.S. erTi sityviT,  zustad igive meTodebiT akeTeben Zalauflebis monopolizebas – gayalbebebiT da sxva saSualebebiT, raTa SeinarCunon savarZlebi da gaagrZelon qveynis yvlefa da gadamawileba. swored, amis gamoa rom izrdeba siduxWire, gaWirveba da socialuri foni aris sakmaod mZime.

   - arCevnebis obieqturobaSi Tu eWvi geparebaT, maSin  gamarjvebis ra Sansebi aqvs, leiboristuli partiis merobis kandidats - asmaT tyablaZes?

-Tu obieqturad Catardeba arCevnebi, warmodgenil  merobis kandidatebs Soris, asmaT tyablaZe yvelaze misaRebi da konkurentunariania. igi mebrZoli qalbatonia, aris sazogado moRvawe da Rvawlmosili xelovani.  Aaris arasamTavrobo organizaciis  xelmZRvaneli, romelic  aqtiurad ibrZvis adamianis socialuri interesebis dasacavad.  sxvaTaSoris, asmaT tyablaZe  arasodes, arcerTi xelisuflebis elitasTan  ar yofila daaxloebuli. MmasPprivilegia imitomac unda mivaniWoT, rom  aris  mebrZoli qalbatoni da Tbiliss unda hyavdes swored, aseTi meri - ,,diasaxlisi’’, romlisTvisac prioritetuli iqneba moqalaqeebis interesebi.  gpirdebiT, is  iqneba TiToeuli qalaqelis megobari,  gverdSi mdgomi da moagvarebs yvela improblemas, romelic Tbiliselebs awuxebs.

-gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi, ras pirdebiT Tbilisis mosaxleobas?

- Cven gamokveTili gvaqvs prioritetebi, pirvel rigSi, gauqmdeba e.w. saSvebisa da dacvis instituti. Mmoqalaqeebs, ratom unda WirdebodeT saSviT Sesvla merTan gamgebelTan, sakrebulos TiToeul wevrTan?  Ees  aris maxinji saSvTa sistema, rodesac xelisufleba emaleba sakuTar moqalaqeebs. aq TiToeul Cinovniks karze dacva hyavs dayenebuli, raTa problemebi ar SeeqmnaT gamwarebuli amomrCevlisagan. magaliTad, amerikis kongreSi aranairi barieri ar arsebobs, gareda metalo-deteqtorisa, iq pirdapir Sedian  amomrCevlebi senatorebTan da kongresmenebTan.

Cvens saarCevno programaSia, aseve, centraluri gaTbobis sistemis aRdgena.  mogexsenebaT, individualuri  gamaTbobeli saSualebebiT bevri adamiani daiRupa da amas garda, is did xarjebTan aris dakavSirebuli. Aamave dros, dedaqalaqSi, municipaluri sabinao fondi Seiqmneba da garemontdeba is saxelmwifo dawesebulebebi, romelic dRes upatronod aris mitovebuli. agreTve, TiToeuli mSenebloba, romelic iqneba nebarTvis gacemis pirobebSi, savaldebulo iqneba, rom garkveruli farTi saxelmwifos gadasces, sadac Sesaxldebian mravalSvilianebi da usaxlkaroebi. agreTve, vapirebrT ,,brZolas’’ tarifebis Sesaxeb, kerZo kompaniebi ki, sanam tarifebs, Seamcireben, dedaqalaqis biujetidan gaicema vauCerebi da moxmarebuli gazisa da eleqtroenergiis safasuris garkveuli odenoba daifareba. programaSi gaTvlilia yvela is sakiTxi, romelic dedaqalaqis mosaaxleobas awuxebs da  yvela problema gadawydeba referendumis gziT, blebiscitiT anu SeekiTxebian Tbiliselebs.

Eekologiuri pirobebis gsaumjobeseblad ki, dedaqalaqSi arsebuli yvela skveri, baRi, vakis parki, botanikuri baRi, ipodromi da a.S. saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi  dabrundeba. skverebSi aikrZaleba yovelgvari mSenebloba da moxdeba qalaqis mwvane ganaSenianeba. Aaseve, gaTvaliswinebuli gvaqvs sxavdasxa socialuri sakiTxebis mogvareba.

            

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